Tri-union gods and Pagan, Christian, Muslim and Jewish views on the Creator God

Yesterday we looked at those who have questions about God and how the Christadelphians try to give them an answer and offer a platform where questions can be asked.

When you look at the world of those who claim that they worship the True God, we may find Jews, Christians and Muslims. Though by the Christians and Mohammedans questions may arise. Next to Christianity we can see Christendom where there are people who call themselves Christian, and often consider themselves part of Christianity, though do not really follow the teachings of Christ (the Kristos) Jesus, whose original name is Jeshua from Nazareth, from the tribe of king David. Those so called Christians do believe in a tri-une god, like before the time of Jesus there have been also many others who believed in some three-une or three-headed gods, but of which the Bible say that they are false gods and that there is Only One True God, the God of Israel, Who is One (and as such not two, three, eight or more).

trinity-doctrine-found-in-most-pagan-religionsOf those trinitarians there are who do not seem to know about other three-headed gods, and others who claim that their tri-union god is different because he would be having all the same qualities in each personality. Though than then they do seem to miss that the god they claim to be omnipotent, omnipresent, and as omniscient all knowing, at certain points said he did not know it, though they claim he would never lie. If god knows everything (what God does) and Jesus would be God than Jesus would know when he would come back, he would know when the end-times are, he would know who would be saved, he would know who would be seated next to him, he would know he is a spirit, though he clearly stated he is no spirit and does not know all those matters, because it is only known to the Spirit God, Who has no beginning, can not be tempted, can not be done any thing by man, can not die, though Jesus was tempted many times, was killed by man (or faked his death), was three days in hell (not exactly a place for God to be), was taken out of the dead (God never be able to be death would not exactly be under the dead, is it not?), would have been taken in to the heaven to come to sit next to God (though when Jesus is God then he would sit on his own throne never next to himself but at the place of himself).

Dattatreya
Dattatreya or Dattā, deity by people from India and Nepal, having Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva in him

Those Christians who think their tri-union god or tri-une godhead is different than the other three-headed gods, like several tri-une Hindu gods (a.o. Brahma, Trisiras and Dattatreya);

Triglav - a Slav three-headed warrior god
Triglav – a Slav three-headed warrior god

or European Slav and Celtic gods like Ambisagrus or Jupiter Optimus Maximus, Nantosuelta, goddess of nature, the earth, fire, and fertility in Gaul, Triglav the three-headed warrior god, or Thor, should think twice and compare the attributes contributed to those gods and theirs, which seem to be very similar.
In several pagan religions we do find a trinity with a god father or god mother, a god son or a god word and a god spirit or god light or god thought or soul.

The Bible also speaks of such trinitarian gods like Nimrod. The Word of the One True God calls him

“a mighty hunter in opposition to Jehovah”

We can see that in 4th C.C.E., at the Council of Nicea of Constantine Christendom simply picked up the idea of tri-une gods to win over the pagans. They suddenly made YHWH Jehovah, Jesus and the Holy Spirit 3 persons in one godhead.

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Tri-une Hindu god who is considered the creator god, but also by other groups has four faces. He is also known as Svayambhu (self-born), Vāgīśa (Lord of Speech), and the creator of the four Vedas, one from each of his mouths

Question is if tri-une gods like the creator god Brahma or the Indian Mandhata represent the same Creator God Jehovah, but just under an other name?

Maybe similarities between Kama and Cupid, Vishwakarma and Vulcan and Indra and Zeus may lead many to hastily conclude that Hindu mythology is similar to Greek mythology. It is said that the Greeks believed in polytheism, the belief in many gods, but many Hindus say they believe in one god and as such should belong to monotheism. For them like for trinitarian Christians their god is one god who appears in different forms. For Hindu religious people their one god shows the world the different aspects of the supreme Brahmanthe supreme existence or absolute reality, avatars or incarnation of this deity on earth, like certain Christians take Jesus as the incarnation of their god or of their supreme being. In the earliest Vedic literature, all supernatural beings are called Asuras, mythological lord beings. in the Vedic religion of India and in later Hinduism, one of many gods, often roughly divided into sky, air, and earth divinities on the basis of their identification with the forces of nature. In the pantheistic systems that emerged by the Late Vedic period, the devas became subordinate to the one supreme being. 

We can see that those who want to defend the Trinity search for their answers in a lot of philosophical human tangle of thought, like in the article “The Trinity Logically Defended” where they go into numerology (a thought of man) instead of using God’s Word to show their way of thinking would be right. The writer Renassault, at Reasoned ruminations, claims the other tri-une gods may not exist whilst his tri-une god exist, though he does not evince it at all, nor does he give any proof the other deities would not exist. For him moreover, the philosopher who popularized Nominalism to the present day, the  medieval French scholastic philosopher, theologian and preeminent logician Peter Abelard, considered the past and future to be just as non-existent universals as numbers, so do we have to accept that the past nor the future exist? And what has this to do with the reality of a tri-une god or with the existence of the Real One God who created the being and the elements man uses to divide time?

The writer of the above mentioned article The Trinity Logically Defended says he is not arguing that what he says proves there must have been a God who created everything/something at all. But he writes

I’m only pointing out that the answer is the same logically consistent answer as how the Trinity can be true and non-contradictory. If the cause that originated the universe was eternal, why did it create the universe in this way? Randomly and arbitrarily you say? But if there were an infinite number of possible random variations, like Zeno’s Paradox, how was one even “picked”? {The Trinity Logically Defended}

For him the answer of it all lies in or deals with the Trinity. He also does not seem to believe man would ever be able to follow God’s commandments. With that thinking he implies God demanded from the start something He knew man would never be able to keep, which makes of this God a very cruel God.

For that writer the God

Father is the source of the Trinity and the Son and Spirit both have their source in the Father, yet without a point in time being created. The three person all have the same Will—that of the Father, they cannot contradict each other, or operate independently, they only do the Father’s will. {The Trinity Logically Defended}

In many other faiths where they worship a three headed god they also claim their gods being from the same source and having the equal powers, having the same will. He claims his tri-union god cannot contradict each other though we see Jesus claiming God is greater than him, which would be a contradiction if Jesus is that same God. At one point Jesus also prays to God and says that he wants that the Will of God shall be done and not his (Jesus) will. In case Jesus is God it shall always God’s or his will.

Nowhere does he proof that

Christ also confesses He has a second another will–that of a human. {The Trinity Logically Defended}

In several defences of those who believe in a tri-une god, we never come to see a real logical explanation or a real clear Biblical explanation of that three-headed construction. Having another will than that of God would make the god those trinitarians adhere not having a god of the same will, like the other trinitarian gods in polytheism.

A monotheist religion should only be called this way when it really has one (mono) god as the main figure to be worshipped. Jews, Christians and Muslims claim to be part of the monotheist religions.

It is not bad to have a look at what those religions teach about their God. At the end of 2016 two websites got to see the light of this world. One tries to look at the God of the Muslim world in comparison to the God of the Christian world. That new site, dares to pose many questions and wants people to look at possible answers many communities offer for the questions which are on many believers and non-believers lips. Questiontime-Vragenuurtje is there for you to ask your questions and to go in dialogue. A Lastige Vragensteller or a Troublesome Inquirer takes the floor and shall bring quotes for the Quran as well as the Christian Bible to put answers from Scriptures in the spotlight.

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Some of the vital questions already posed are:

  1. The first question: Why do we live
  2. 2nd question: What or where is the beginning
  3. 3rd question: Does there exist a Divine Creator
  4. Is there no ‘proof’ for God? (And why that statement is not as smart as you might think.)

and some of the answers already posed:

  1. Looking for answers on the question Is there a God #1 Many gods
  2. Looking for answers on the question Is there a God #2 Pantheon of gods and celebrations
  3. Have no other gods besides Me
  4. Nature Is A Reflection Of God

Immanuel Verbondskind looks at the difference between the Jewish tradition and Christian faith and the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Who according to the Holy Scriptures was also the God of rabbi Jeshua, Jesus Christ and his disciples, though the tri-une god of many Christians would never be the God of the Jews.

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Immanuel started at his site to explain that having the name Immanuel does not mean that person is God.  After having looked at “Called Immanuel does not mean to be Jesus being God” he opened with a series on how to read the Holy Scriptures, this with the idea that to come to know the Real True God and to find out who Jesus really is, he thinks it is “Best to read and study the Bible

Immanuel Verbondskind shall look at the teaching of the different Christian denominations and compare them to the teachings of the Jewish rabbi Jeshua, better know today as Jesus Christ. Jesus and his disciples their knowledge of the Hebrew Scriptures plays an important role in how shall be looked at the distortions which may have come into Christendom. Immanuel shall take those basic Judaic Scriptures and examine what the chosen pupils of Jesus made out of it and what they wrote down in the Messianic Scriptures, better known by many Christians as the New Testament. He shall not be averse to look at Jewish traditions and other Jewish literature or theological works, comparing it with Christian theological works and Christian traditions to find out how they fit in the way of thinking of the Messiah Jeshua, the Christ Jesus.

Both new blogs should be a good asset to come to know the divine Creator and to come to know how Jehovah God relates to Jesus and Jesus to the world.

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A Start for looking at the unseen and the treasure to look forward to

Relating to God is it possible

Can you question the existence of God

Are there certain books essential to come to faith

A King who wanted to extol a King above all kings

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Find a.o.

  1. Christadelphian Yuku Platform
  2. Trinity matter
  3. Questiontime-Vragenuurtje
  4. Immanuel Verbondskind

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Additional reading

  1. Only One God
  2. God is only One
  3. Attributes to God
  4. Glory of only One God Who gives His Word
  5. People Seeking for God 3 Laws and directions
  6. Christianity without the Trinity
  7. Hellenistic influences
  8. Germanic mythological influences up to today’s Christmas celebrations
  9. Our World: Jewish and Christian traditions of elders
  10. Denominationalism exists because?
  11. Silence, devotion, Salafists, quietists, weaponry, bombings, books, writers and terrorists
  12. Jesus three days in hell
  13. Eostre, Easter, White god, chocolate eggs, Easter bunnies and metaphorical resurrection
  14. Revelation 1:8 – Who is Speaking?
  15. How did the Trinity Doctrine Develop
  16. History of the acceptance of a three-in-one God
  17. Altered to fit a Trinity
  18. It happened on May 2 295
  19. 1691 years ago on June the 20th in 325
  20. Necessity of a revelation of creation 2 Organisation of a system of things
  21. Framework and vehicle for Christian Scholasticism and loss of confidence
  22. How Did Jesus Become White? By Richard Stockton
  23. Problems correspondents have with the Trinity Doctrine

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Further reading
  1. Three-headed gods
  2. Three Headed Hindu God Shiva :Tri Mukhi Hindu Lord Mahadev
  3. Lakshmi Maa
  4. Triglav – The Three Headed God
  5. Pokristjanjevanje alpskih Slovanov
  6. Is God comprised of three persons, or is He just one person?
  7. The Trinity: paganism or Christianity?
  8. The History of the Development of the Trinity Doctrine
  9. Trinity And Pagan Influence
  10. James White and John 1:1 Regarding “Was”
  11. John 1:1,2 – The Word was Mighty
  12. John 4:26 – EGO EIMI and Jesus’ Claim to be the Messiah
  13. Luke 1:35 and the Trinity
  14. The Real Reasons for Not Believing the Trinity
  15. The God of Jesus
  16. Questions for those who believe in the Trinity
  17. “If God Exists”
  18. Who Created God and What Existed Before Him
  19. The Trinity Logically Defended
  20. Christianity – Nature of God
  21. A Perfect Example of Acedia
  22. Edward Gibbon on religion in the Roman Empire
  23. The Lie of White Identity
  24. Njord God of… Fire?
  25. Henotheology!
  26. Twelfth Night & Wassail
  27. Christmas: a miracle of understanding
  28. Merry Christmas 2016
  29. Surah 16:71 – How Could The Creator Be Compared to created?
  30. How is that God? Objections and Responses to the Argument From Change
  31. Reblog: Many Gods

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Words of God to stand and to be followed and to believe

The Aleppo Codex is a medieval manuscript of t...
The Aleppo Codex is a medieval manuscript of the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh), associated with Rabbi Aaron Ben Asher. The Masoretic scholars wrote it in the early 10th century, probably in Tiberias, Israel. It is in book form and contains the vowel points and grammar points (nikkudot) that specify the pronunciation of the ancient Hebrew letters to preserve the chanting tradition. It is perhaps the most historically important Hebrew manuscript in existence. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

From the beginning of times Words were given to man declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, that His counsel shall stand, and all of what He likes shall come into being. He has given His advice and the thoughts of His heart, for all generations to learn from it and to get more wisdom.

Man may be slow of mouth but the Most High is the One Who let others speak in His Name. It is His Spirit Which lifted up several men of God, and the hand of יהוה Jehovah the Elohim was strong upon them (Ezekiel 3:14)

Even the most known sent one from God, whom many take as their god, did not use his own words, which he would have done when he is God. Today there are still several people who do not believe what Jesus said that he could not do anything without his heavenly Father Whose words Jesus brought to mankind and spoke to his disciples. (John 5:17-36; 14:10,28)

That Word written down for mankind was spoken so man could take it as a harness, and take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word not of human origin but breathed by יהוה Jehovah God for our edification, profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that those who love God may be children of God completed, thoroughly equipped for every good work (Ephesians 6:17; 2 Timothy 3:16-17)

Exodus 20:1 (RNKJV)

Exodus 20
1 And Elohim spake all these words, saying,

Exodus 33:11  (RNKJV)
And יהוה spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.

Numbers 12:8  (RNKJV)
With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of יהוה shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?

Deuteronomy 4:33  (RNKJV)
Did ever people hear the voice of Elohim speaking out of the midst of the fire, as thou hast heard, and live?

Deuteronomy 4:36  (RNKJV)
Out of heaven he made thee to hear his voice, that he might instruct thee: and upon earth he shewed thee his great fire; and thou heardest his words out of the midst of the fire.

Deuteronomy 5:4  (RNKJV)
יהוה talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire,

Deuteronomy 5:22  (RNKJV)
These words יהוה spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: and he added no more. And he wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me.

Deuteronomy 18:20-22 (RNKJV)
20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other elohim, even that prophet shall die. 21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which יהוה hath not spoken? 22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of יהוה, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which יהוה hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

Isaiah 6:8  (RNKJV)
Also I heard the voice of יהוה, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.

Isaiah 7:7  (RNKJV)
Thus saith the Master יהוה, It shall not stand, neither shall it come to pass.

Isaiah 46:8-13 (RNKJV)
8 Remember this, and shew yourselves men: bring it again to mind, O ye transgressors. 9 Remember the former things of old: for I am El, and there is none else; I am Elohim, and there is none like me, 10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: 11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it. 12 Hearken unto me, ye stouthearted, that are far from righteousness: 13 I bring near my righteousness; it shall not be far off, and my salvation shall not tarry: and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory.

Psalms 119:98-100  (RNKJV)
98 Thou through thy commandments hast made me wiser than mine enemies: for they are ever with me.
99 I have more understanding than all my teachers: for thy testimonies are my meditation.
100 I understand more than the ancients, because I keep thy precepts.

Psalms 33:11  (RNKJV)
The counsel of יהוה standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations.

Proverbs 1:1-4 (RNKJV)

Proverbs 1
1 The proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel; 2 To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding; 3 To receive the instruction of wisdom, justice, and judgment, and equity; 4 To give subtilty to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion.

Proverbs 9:10  (RNKJV)
The fear of יהוה is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

Jeremiah 1:2  (RNKJV)
To whom the word of יהוה came in the days of Josiah the son of Amon king of Judah, in the thirteenth year of his reign.

Jeremiah 1:4  (RNKJV)
Then the word of יהוה came unto me, saying,

Jeremiah 1:9  (RNKJV)
Then יהוה put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And יהוה said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth.

Jeremiah 8:9  (RNKJV)
The wise men are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken: lo, they have rejected the word of יהוה; and what wisdom is in them?

Jeremiah 23:28  (RNKJV)
The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith יהוה.

Jeremiah 23:29  (RNKJV)
Is not my word like as a fire? saith יהוה; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?

2 Samuel 23:1-5 (RNKJV)

2 Samuel 23
1 Now these be the last words of David. David the son of Jesse said, and the man who was raised up on high, the anointed of the Elohim of Jacob, and the sweet psalmist of Israel, said, 2 The Spirit of יהוה spake by me, and his word was in my tongue. 3 The Elohim of Israel said, the Rock of Israel spake to me, He that ruleth over men must be just, ruling in the fear of Elohim. 4 And he shall be as the light of the morning, when the sun riseth, even a morning without clouds; as the tender grass springing out of the earth by clear shining after rain. 5 Although my house be not so with El; yet he hath made with me an everlasting covenant, ordered in all things, and sure: for this is all my salvation, and all my desire, although he make it not to grow.

Ezekiel 1:3  (RNKJV)
The word of יהוה came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the river Chebar; and the hand of יהוה was there upon him.

Joel 1:1  (RNKJV)
The word of יהוה that came to Joel the son of Pethuel.

Habakkuk 2:2  (RNKJV)
And יהוה answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.

Luke 5:1  (RNKJV)
And it came to pass, that, as the people pressed upon him to hear the word of יהוה, he stood by the lake of Gennesaret,

Luke 8:21  (RNKJV)
And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of יהוה, and do it.

John 14:10  (RNKJV)
Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Ephesians 6:17  (RNKJV)
And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of יהוה:

1 Peter 1:25  (RNKJV)
But the word of יהוה endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

1 Timothy 4:1  (RNKJV)
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Timothy 3:15-17 (RNKJV)
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Yahushua the Messiah. 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of יהוה, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of יהוה may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Hebrews 4:12  (RNKJV)
For the word of יהוה is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Acts 1:16  (RNKJV)
Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Spirit by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Yahushua.

Acts 3:21  (RNKJV)
Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which יהוה hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Acts 8:14  (RNKJV)
Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of יהוה, they sent unto them Kepha and John:

Acts 28:24-28 (RNKJV)
24 And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not. 25 And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Spirit by Isaiah the prophet unto our fathers, 26 Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive: 27 For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of יהוה is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.

2 Corinthians 9:8  (RNKJV)
And Elohim is able to make all favour abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:

Romans 10:17  (RNKJV)
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of יהוה.

2 Peter 1:16-21  (RNKJV)
16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Master Yahushua the Messiah, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17 For he received from יהוה the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. 18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of יהוה spake as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

1 Thessalonians 2:13  (RNKJV)
For this cause also thank we יהוה without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of יהוה which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of יהוה, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

 

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Additional reading:

  1. Necessary to be known all over the earth
  2. How to look for and how to handle the Truth
  3. The Bible: God’s Word or pious myth?
  4. Why believing the Bible
  5. Of the many books Only the Bible can transform
  6. Coming to understanding from sayings written long ago
  7. The Bible is a today book
  8. Written down in God’s Name for righteousness
  9. Appointed to be read
  10. Do Christians need to read the Old Testament
  11. Bible for you and for life
  12. Unsure about relevance Bible
  13. A Bible Falling Apart Belongs to Someone who isn’t
  14. Possibility to live
  15. Power in the life of certain
  16. Who Wrote the Bible?
  17. No prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation
  18. Pure Words and Testimonies full of Breath of the Most High
  19. Fools despise wisdom and instruction
  20. Looking for wisdom not departing from God’s Word
  21. Words to inspire and to give wisdom
  22. Eternal Word that tells everything
  23. Hearing words to accept
  24. Bible Word from God
  25. Bible, God speaking words profitable for doctrine, for reproof and for correction
  26. Bible, sword of the Spirit to come into the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man
  27. Bible, helmet of health, salvation and sword of the spirit
  28. Bible, helmet of salvation, God’s Words put in the mouth of prophets for perfecting, to reprove and correct
  29. God-breathed prophetic words written torah and the mitzvot to teach us
  30. Scripture words written for our learning, given by inspiration of God for edification
  31. The Right One to follow and to worship
  32. The radiance of God’s glory and the counsellor
  33. Did the Inspirator exist
  34. Believing what Jesus says
  35. When you don’t know what to do and hate yourself
  36. Bible ownership and Bible knowledge slumped
  37. Why can’t Bible scholars agree on how to interpret the Bible?
  38. Out of Context: How to Avoid Misinterpreting the Bible
  39. The Metaphorical language of the Bible
  40. Cosmogony
  41. Getting to know the Truth
  42. Not all christians are followers of a Greco-Roman culture
  43. Scripture alone Sola Scriptora
  44. Luther’s misunderstanding
  45. Accuracy, Word-for-Word Translation Preferred by most Bible Readers
  46. Celebrating the Bible in English
  47. What English Bible do you use?
  48. The Most Reliable English Bible
  49. 21st Century Version of the Christian Scripture or Mark Heber Miller Bible
  50. NWT and what other scholars have to say to its critics
  51. The NIV and the Name of God
  52. Cell phone vs. Bible
  53. Determined To Stick With Truth.
  54. Bringing Good News into the world
  55. Bible like puddle of water
  56. Working on the Bible being like re-wiring an old house
  57. The manager and Word of God
  58. Feed Your Faith Daily
  59. Rebirth and belonging to a church

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Relating to God is it possible

Relating to God Weebly site Relation page
Relating to God Weebly site Relation page

Some people do find it ridiculous to hear others saying to “relate to God”. There are those who say there does not exist a god and others who say God is so Divine it is impossible for man to have a relationship with Him. Others say it is only the son of God who is related to God because he is the incarnation of God himself, God having coming to earth. For them God became personified. Some two thousand years ago, according to them, there took place an act of embodying in flesh. Those believers who call themselves also Christians are convinced that Christ Jesus is an incarnate yatsar or form of God. For them he is the manifestation of God and the visible embodiment of the Most High. They think it was God who took an the form of a slave.
At this site we shall show that God may be manifested in Christ Jesus but that the Bible teaches that Jesus is the son of God and that nowhere in the Holy Scriptures is written he would be the “god the son” (a big difference).

Somewhere in the world there are others who believe what the Bible says, that God is the sent one from God, the one who came to “let it be known” that the God of gods is the Divine Creator Who wants His creatures to have a good relationship with Him and His creatures.

The Nazarene rabbi Jeshua (Jesus Christ) declared his intentions and got followers who listened to his words, followed his teachings and unleashed a worldwide movement. That what was stirred up in the first century of this common era (CE) still continues these days with new followers of Christ (Christians) who also want to keep to Jesus his teachings and to the same books Jesus followed and preached from (the Hebrew and Aramaic writings or 39 Judaic Books = the Old Testament). Additionally those followers to day use also the books written by Jeshua’s disciples and the called apostle Paul, 27 writings compiled in the Messianic Writings or New Testament).

Those followers of Jeshua from all over the world join forces to have people come to know the Way to God, who is this sent one from God, rabbi Jeshua, son of man and son of God. They do agree that the Divine Creator has distinguishing features and that not all human beings do have the required qualities to have mutual relations. What’s more, most people are living on strained relations with each other and with the Creator.

Being created in the image of God every human from whatever race is in the likeness of God. Being of the old world descendants of the 1° Adam or of descendants of the 2° Adam, who are in the likeness of Christ Jesus, the first born of the New World, like Jesus was in the image of God.

Genesis 1:1 (RNKJV)
Genesis 1
1 In the beginning Elohim created the heaven and the earth.

Genesis 1:26-27 (RNKJV)
26 And Elohim said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So Elohim created man in his own image, in the image of Elohim created he him; male and female created he them.

Psalms 100:3  (RNKJV)
Know ye that יהוה he is Elohim: it is he that hath made us, and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture.

Isaiah 64:8  (RNKJV)
But now, O יהוה, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.

Colossians 1:15 (RNKJV)
15 Who is the image of the invisible Elohim, the firstborn of every creature:

When a Maker would make something in His image, do you not think He would like to relate to it.?

First of all it is something He created. He made it Himself. He also liked what He made. After He created something every time we are told He looked at it and saw that it was good.

Genesis 1:31 (RNKJV)
31 And Elohim saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Also later when Jesus was born and had done everything according God’s Will, God was pleased with that creation.

Colossians 1:19-20 (RNKJV)
19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; 20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

We are also told that the heavens were sanctified with what the Elohim Hashem Jehovah had done.

Psalms 19:1  (RNKJV)
The heavens declare the glory of El; and the firmameint sheweth his handywork.

Psalms 104:24  (RNKJV)
O יהוה, how manifold are thy works! in wisdom hast thou made them all: the earth is full of thy riches.

Psalms 104:31  (RNKJV)
The glory of יהוה shall endure for ever: יהוה shall rejoice in his works.

Ephesians 3:21  (RNKJV)
Unto him be glory in the assembly by the Messiah Yahushua throughout all ages, world without end. amein.

When God’s glory has to stay for ever it means also when He has to heave pleasure in His works, and others should glorify His works, than it means that there must be a relationship with that what He created.

Throughout history we also can see how God kept contact with those who came after Adam and Eve. Although they had doubted God’s right to have dominion over man, God was forgiving and loving His creatures, wanting them to give an other chance. Those who were willing to come to Him He was willing to receive.

From the many Bible stories we can clearly see that the Elohim Hashem Jehovah, the Divine Creator really wants to make an alley with His creatures.

At this and our sibling website we want to show the world that God wants to connect with the living creatures. We also want to show how we can be involved in God’s demand for an ally.

By going through the coming articles you might come to see how you can have a bearing on the creation and can empathize with the Divine Creator and other living creatures.

 

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Additional reading:

  1. No other god besides Jehovah who gives all explanation
  2. Necessary to be known all over the earth
  3. Something from nothing
  4. Means of creations
  5. The very very beginning 1 Creating Gods
  6. The very very beginning 2 The Word and words
  7. Genesis – Story of creation 2 Genesis 1:26-31 Creation of man
  8. Coming to the creation of human beings in the image of God
  9. Creator and Blogger God 2 Image and likeness
  10. Creator and Blogger God 3 Lesson and solution
  11. Creator and Blogger God 5 Things to tell
  12. Necessity of a revelation of creation 2 Organisation of a system of things
  13. Necessity of a revelation of creation 7 Getting understanding by Word of God 5
  14. Creation of the earth and man #2 Evil Angels and moments of creation
  15. Creation of the earth and man #17 Man in the image and likeness of the Elohim #1 In the image and after the likeness
  16. Creation of the earth and man #18 Man in the image and likeness of the Elohim #2 Assimilation of character
  17. Creation of the earth and man #19 Man in the image and likeness of the Elohim #3 Beholding image and likeness of the invisible God
  18. Man in the image and likeness of the Elohim #8 The Formation of woman #1
  19. Forbidden Fruit in the Midst of the Garden 1
  20. Forbidden Fruit in the Midst of the Garden 4
  21. Philippians 1 – 2
  22. Yatsar
  23. What is life?
  24. Entrance of a king to question our position #2 Who do we want to see and to be
  25. Looking at three “I am” s
  26. Getting out of the dark corners of this world
  27. Self-development, self-control, meditation, beliefs and spirituality
  28. Faith antithesis of rationality
  29. Trusting, Faith, calling and Ascribing to Jehovah #3 Voice of God #1 Creator and His Prophets
  30. Not trying to make the heathen live like Jews #1
  31. Not bounded by labels but liberated in Christ

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